I keep seeing people online say the 3M PPS system is a must have for any serious painter. So I dropped $400 on the starter kit back in February for my shop in Cleveland. Used it for about two months on maybe 15 jobs and honestly I think I mix paint faster with a regular cup. The adapter cups leak on the edges sometimes and cleaning them takes forever. Plus you still have to buy those disposable liners over and over. Am I the only one who thinks this thing is overhyped or did I just get a bad batch of parts?
I was just going through my work logs for the year and realized I hit 500 quarter panel replacements since I started at this shop in 2018. That number caught me off guard because I never counted until now. Most of them were on F-150s and Chevy Silverados from that hail storm we had back in 2021. The funny part is my coworker joked I should get a trophy or something, but the only reward was another rusted out Tacoma coming in that same afternoon. Has anyone else hit a weird milestone like this and felt nothing special about it?
Found the old tube of hardener in the back of my cabinet and it was all clumpy and dry, so now I check the date on everything before I even start mixing - has anyone else had a batch of filler go bad on them?
I tried pulling a hail dent on my F-150 last month with one of those cheap suction cup kits. Stupid move. It popped the paint clean off around the dent and I had to bring it to a shop to get the whole panel resprayed. My buddy at the shop said those kits are fine for plastic bumpers but never on metal panels. Anyone else learn this the hard way?
He said 'stop fighting the metal and let the curve tell you where to push' while we were working a rear quarter on a 98 Civic in his shop over on 14th street, and after 22 years in this trade I finally got why my hammer work was always just a little off.
I was at a shop near Springfield last month, watching a guy named Dave fix a misaligned door on a 2015 F-150. He didn't use a frame puller or any fancy tools, just a block of wood and a mallet, and he had the gap perfect in under ten minutes. The customer was watching and kept saying 'I could've done that,' but Dave just smiled and handed me his hammer. Has anyone else seen a trick like that where the simple stuff gets overlooked?
He told me I was rushing the pre-heat step and that's why my repairs kept cracking after a few months. Anyone else been doing it wrong and just never thought to slow down?
Guy pulls into the shop last Tuesday with a 2012 F-150. The rocker panel is basically swiss cheese from Arizona road salt and dirt. He watches me tap around it with a screwdriver for a minute, then says 'can't you just hit it with some spray paint and call it good?' I showed him the hole going through to the inside and he still seemed annoyed I quoted him $800 for the patch and blend. Has anyone else dealt with customers who think rust is just a cosmetic thing?
Had a guy in his 50s come into the shop off I-35 in Austin last month. He just stood there behind my stall watching me block sand a door panel on a silver Camry. After 15 minutes he goes 'you know, I never realized how much patience this takes. I would have thrown the tool across the room by now.' That moment stuck with me because he was quiet the whole time, just observing. Has anyone else had a customer who was genuinely curious about the process without being annoying about it?
Knocked 45 minutes off my next three jobs after I finally tried it last week, anyone else get handed a tip like that and wish you'd heard it sooner?
I was at a shop in Phoenix back in 2019 and a painter I respected grabbed my hand mid-stroke and said "you're leaving scratches I have to fill twice." He showed me how 180 grit gets the same flatness without digging trenches into the filler, and I felt like an idiot for a decade of work. Anyone else have a basic technique they learned embarrassingly late?
I did a full rear quarter repair on a guy's silver F-150 back in June, looked perfect when he left. He just rolled back in yesterday with the exact same crease in the same spot, said he hit a pole in a parking lot downtown. How do you guys handle repeat customers who mess up the same panel twice?
I was swapping out filters at a buddy's shop last Thursday and realized how much things have changed since I built my own booth back in 2018. Back then I just threw in whatever cheap cardboard frames the supply house had on sale. Figured air flow was air flow. But after fighting with dust nibs and fish eyes on a pearl white job last spring I finally broke down and upgraded to those pleated fiberglass pre-filters with the metal mesh backing. The difference is insane. My topcoat rejection rate went from like 1 in 4 jobs needing a recoat down to maybe 1 in 15. And I'm not chasing orange peel from overspray settling on wet clear anymore either. Has anyone else noticed a big jump just from switching pre-filter brands or am I overthinking this?
Took a gamble on the cheap plastic cover for a customer's 2012 Civic. Fitment was so bad I spent 3 hours shaving and heating it to get the gaps even halfway right. Has anyone else just eaten the loss and sent the cheap part back?
Dropped a car off last week with a rocker panel that was basically gone, customer wanted the cheapest patch job possible. I was about to just weld in some tin but the shop manager saw me and tossed me a big plastic street sign from the dumpster. We cut it to shape, zip tied it over the rust hole, and slapped on some bondo. Dried solid and you can't even tell from 5 feet away. Anyone else ever use random junk like that for a quick patch?
Was at lunch last Tuesday and this old school dealer I know told me I was leaving $200 on the table every time I quoted a job. He said customers see a low estimate and think the work is crap, not a deal. Anyone else notice a difference in how clients react when you bump up the initial number?
Been using a $40 Harbor Freight DA sander for like 2 years, figured it was fine until I borrowed my buddy's Festool for a door repair on a '22 Silverado. The dust collection alone made the job faster, and I didn't feel like my hands were gonna vibrate off after 20 minutes. Has anyone else made the jump from budget to premium and actually noticed a difference, or am I just being picky?
Rented a booth at a buddy's shop in Martinez last month and the airflow was so bad my clear coat orange peeled on a whole Lexus. Anyone else ever get screwed by a booth you thought was solid?
Grabbed that fancy paint mixing system for $400 thinking it would speed up my work, but it was just a headache with clogged nozzles and inaccurate ratios so I sent it back, anyone else had better luck with the manual stick method?
I was working on a 2019 Civic rear quarter panel and the metallic silver just would not match no matter what I did. Tried adjusting the reducer, the air pressure, even the spray distance and it still looked off until I finally swapped to a different brand of clear coat. Anyone else have a color that took way longer than expected to get right?
Last week at a meetup in Phoenix, this old-timer goes 'your paint booth should be the last place air touches before it leaves the building.' I'd been running my booth near the back door with all the dust from the sanding bay blowing right in. Spent Saturday rearranging three work stations and moved my compressor closer to the intake. Anyone else ever realize your shop's airflow is working against you?
Overheard a guy at the NAPA counter last week telling a newbie you have to strip every panel on a '70s car before shooting primer. I've had good luck with a careful scuff and epoxy sealer on solid original paint, and it saved me 8 hours on a '76 Trans Am last month. Anyone else had that sealer actually hold up long term?
Customer brought in a 2018 Civic with a busted bumper. Cap on the inside of the door said R-81 Crystal Black Pearl. Mixed up a pint, shot a test card, and it was way off. Looked more like a dark gray. After digging around I found a sticker under the hood that said they repainted the whole car two owners ago. The cap was from the factory but the car had been resprayed with a different black. Ended up having to pull a fuel door sample and eyeball the tint. So much for trusting the code. Anyone else run into a mismatch like that and waste a whole afternoon?
I kept hearing people say you gotta drop serious cash on a high CFM fan for your home booth. So I bought this big unit off a supply house website for about $600 thinking it would solve all my overspray problems. Two months in and the motor started rattling like crazy, plus it didn't pull enough air through my filters anyway. My buddy uses a $150 furnace blower he rigged up with a dryer vent and his finishes come out cleaner than mine. Anyone else try the cheap DIY route and get better results than the expensive gear?