@sam17 bro have you seen how much some of those "cheap" phones cost now too though? lol. Crazy how folks will flex with a new iPhone every year but then cry about spending $200 extra on a solid piece of furniture that'll outlive them. My buddy still has a dining table from the 70s his grandpa built, meanwhile my sister's on her third coffee table in five years cause the particle board keeps splitting.

Man, I hear you loud and clear! Those discard crackers are a total letdown, I tried them twice and both times I ended up with something that could double as a hockey puck. But here's what I'm wondering - did you actually taste that famous discard pancake recipe before writing them all off? I ask because I've had way better luck with those than with the crackers, they actually turn out fluffy and tangy. Your grandma dumping the discard makes total sense to me, but have you ever thought maybe the issue is the recipes themselves, not the idea of using leftover starter? Some of those food bloggers just throw stuff together without testing it properly.

Tell Carol I'll trade her my preheating "waste" for her dry wings. I'll take the extra few cents on my bill.

Nah, sometimes tripping's more interesting than a perfect waltz.

Man it's crazy how we all treat our fridges like a time capsule instead of an appliance.