A friend's dad quietly mentioned a 1970s government study on mind control that was never released

I was at a barbecue over the weekend, and my friend's dad, who used to work in archives, got talking. He said in a low voice that in the late 70s, he saw a request for a full review of a project called MKDelta, but the files were pulled and sealed before he could process them. He said the official line is that all that stuff ended with MKUltra, but he's sure other programs just got better at hiding. It made me realize how we only debate the declassified horrors, never the ones still buried. The scariest ideas aren't the wild theories online, but the ones a normal guy hints at over a beer because he can't prove it. What's the most credible 'buried' program you've heard whispers about from someone who was there?

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kim19120d agoMost Upvoted

Honestly, the part about sealed crates with project names that didn't match any supply lists totally got me. @derekward that's the kind of detail that makes you wonder if someone just quietly buried the evidence in some random depot. Ngl, it's the boring stuff that never gets attention that's the scariest.

danielb431mo ago

Used to roll my eyes at this stuff, figured it was all conspiracy talk. Hearing a similar story from an uncle who was army logistics changed that. He mentioned moving weird equipment in the 80s, sealed crates with project names that didn't match any supply lists. It's the boring, normal people who saw one strange thing that get me. Makes you wonder what's still sitting in a vault somewhere because nobody with the full picture is left to talk.

derekward1mo ago

Yeah that's the kind of detail that gets me. Did your uncle ever mention specific project names or code words, even if they sounded made up? Or what kind of base or facility they were taking this stuff to? Those logistics paper trails have to exist somewhere, even if the people who knew what it was for are gone.